Topic: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Forum Administrator | Posted: 31 Jul 2003 |
How should alcohol be supplied to the community?
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Brian King | Posted: 22 Aug 2003 |
1.There are too many 24 hour alcohol selling and serving outlets in the community.
2. Although I feel many in the community appreciate the present deregulation of liquor laws so that they are able to drink alcohol responsibly at a time and venue of their choosing.I feel there should still be some limit placed on the hours of this availabilty on weeknights as compared to weekends when the majority in the community tend to drink socially.
3. There is also a grave concen that some irresponsible people in the community may be making acohol available to children considering recent reports in the tabloids.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Julie Yates | Posted: 24 Aug 2003 |
Dear Summit Working Group,
I wish to bring to your attention some of the problems we have faced since opening a small boutique winery at Yerong Creek, NSW in getting our produce out onto the market place responsibly.
1. The big four wine companies have a monopoly with Woolworths, Coles, Liquorland and other major liquor outlets.
2. In fresh food and wine markets in NSW we are unable to sell our wine - only give tastings and take orders and deliver later.This is time consuming and messy when you have the client there. Often they only want a bottle.
This is an excellent way to promote our wines to the public and often there is a buyer who is travelling through and wishes to take the produce with them. .
3. In Victoria a licence to sell wine at the markets can be purchased over the internet for $50.00. There we can sell wine unopened by the bottle.
4. In NSW only tastings can be given to the public in events such as festivals etc. An 'On licence' means we can only sell by the opened glass or bottle and the alcohol has to be consumed in the restricted area and no alcohol unopened can be taken away.
I would consider it more responsible to take the unopend bottle home and then consume it.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Steve Kitchener | Posted: 25 Aug 2003 |
Greater responsibility needs to be taken with heavier fines for under age supply by hotels as well as adults who supply.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Steve Kitchener | Posted: 25 Aug 2003 |
Greater responsibility needs to be taken with heavier fines for under age supply by hotels as well as adults who supply.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Christa Bidgood | Posted: 25 Aug 2003 |
At a recent forum on alcohol and drug abuse a woman identified herself as a preschool teacher and admitted giving her 18 month year old baby a sip of dad's beer. This is the classic thinking only too often and tells us that we as adults perhaps think of alcohol as something much too blasai. Where there is alcoholism and/or addiction in the family this sip of dad's beer could lead to total disaster. My child also drank from the age of 18 months from our glass of wine or beer. Today she drinks socially however alcohol is beginning to effect her life. My daughters were 16 and 17 when they went to an 18 year old birthday party of a friend whose parent was a police officer.
They readily drank and came home intoxicated even though alcohol was not
allowed in our house after I (the alcoholic and addict) became clean and sober. Many children have no problem getting alcohol or drugs. There is no one to enforce who drinks what and how, unless there is an evident incident which then exposes how the alcohol was consumed and sometimes where. When I spoke to the policeman and parent of the the 18 year old child about our daughters drinking he adopted an "as if you didn't know" attitude towards my husband and myself justifying that after all it was my sons 18 birthday and he had come of age. Do we report the man, ruin his career and family ??Again perhaps public forums or presentations to educate the publican on
the effects of alcohol, the husband who goes home and bashed his wife. The wife who is at home and bashed the husband or antagonises him and then takes it out on the children. Where do we want to start. We need to act upon our own conscience of what is ok? For our family it had to start at home. We the parents had to recognise our problem of drug abuse learn about our disease in the family and educate our children accordingly. We taught them to choose and to say no and why. How?
We enforced the discipline to the best of our ability.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Bruce Clark | Posted: 26 Aug 2003 |
Outlets which sell alcohol to minors must be subject to full prosecution and loss of license where applicable. It is only by severe financial penalty that these operators will be brought into line. 3 strikes and you're out .
Unlicensed persons who supply alcohol to children must be also pursued to the full extent possible.
I have no objection to kids having a small amount of alcohol with their families at meals but there has to be a limit. Where kids are found drunk, police should have the power to trace the source of the alcohol and prosecute accordingly.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Heidi | Posted: 26 Aug 2003 |
I'm a year ten student and am not fully concerned about alcohol supply, I'm more concerned about marketing to Underage drinkers. There should be something done about the type of drinks sold and the advertising about this alcohol. The reason young people go on binges is because alcohol these days is made for this purpose, vodka cruisers, archers all these kinds of drinks are full of sugar and contain high alcohol content. This alcohol is aimed at underage drinkers not the legal age. Why? because it sells in great amounts. Teenagers don't drink for the taste but to get drunk, we do not drink wine or champaigne but resort to the pre mixed drinks. I think that instead of putting higher penalties on retailers who sell to adolescants, there needs to be more regulation as to what types of drinks are created and the marketing. raising penalties will not stop uderage drinkers.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Robert Fearnside | Posted: 26 Aug 2003 |
In far less accessible ways. It is just too easy to get for all. It is often the first thing we see when entering a supermarket.
What does this tell our community? Children? Youth? How important is alcohol in our community, if it is put first in view in our food shops? We need to rewrite our 'healthy food' pyramid and put alcohol in its prominent place that our stores and communities indicate we have demanded. Until the producers get the message that we as a community don't place alcohol as being important, it will always, sadly, be accessible and in our face.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Russell Brooks | Posted: 27 Aug 2003 |
Hello, I am a 34 year old male who has had problems with binge drinking for over a decade. These have caused many problems and depression in my life. I just wanted to say that I think one way of reducing binge drinking would be by stopping the 24 hour trading of alcohol. I think that ALL nightclubs and pubs, including those in Kings Cross, Oxford Street, and Sydney CBD, AND the casino, should have to close at say 6.00AM, or at the least, stop serving alcohol at this time (in Queensland, this does occur, except at 5.00AM, which I think is a little too early)! This should occur every day of the week, including weekends. I think that after this, they should not be allowed to re-open for at least 3 hours, but possibly up to 6 hours (this means that they would not be able to re-open until at least 9.00AM, though really, I think that 10.00AM should be the earliest). This is similar to the laws introduced recently for poker machines, where they all have to be closed down for 3 hours. Even taking shift workers into account, it would be difficult to convince many people that it is not unhealthy to be drinking alcohol at 7.00AM or 8.00AM in the morning! I think that having that 3 hour minimum break would result in some people going home and going to sleep, or at least sobering up enough to decide not to drink further on into the day (I have often had 24 hour binges on alcohol).Personally, I don't believe in prohibition (including that of some other drugs that are currently illegal), but I do believe in harm minimisation. I think that although there will most likely always be problem drinkers, anything that could at least help reduce the incidence and degree of harm caused by binge drinking would be a good thing.
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Topic: Re: Responsible Supply and Consumption
Author: Sandra B | Posted: 27 Aug 2003 |
The current methods are fine. Why should people who do not abuse alcohol be punished by restrictions because we have an element in the community who do abuse alcohol? Trying to solve the problem from this angle is like taking the bull by the tail!
People who "need" to drink, will find a way regardless of the restrictions placed upon them!
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